author said:

It seems that it was because Kennedy is from a Terran family which makes he was assassinated. He wouldn't have been controllable by an off-planet invader.

A lunatic, obviously. But...
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Jim Marrs On Remote Viewing, ET Agenda, JFK, Illuminati

Jim Marrs is one of the US's foremost investigative journalists. Probably best known for his ground-breaking research into the Kennedy assassination, his best-selling book "Crossfire: The Plot That Killed Kennedy" formed the basis of director Oliver Stone's film JFK.

--What do you make of the theory that Kennedy was assassinated because he intended to release information on the UFO phenomenon?

I have come across a lot of evidence to support this. For example, there is a 1962 CIA document that records the contents of a wire-tapped conversation between Marilyn Monroe and Hollywood reporter Dorothy Kilgallen two days before Monroe died. During the call, Monroe tells Kilgallen that JFK had told her of his visit to a secret air base where he viewed things from outer space. Kilgallen believed this was connected with the Roswell crash.

Certainly, an FBI document of July 1947 confirms that Kennedy knew about Roswell. Additionally, Bill Holden, a steward on board Air Force One, reported a conversation that he had with Kennedy in 1963, in which he asked the President what he thought about UFOs. Kennedy became very serious and replied `I would like to tell the public about the UFO situation, but my hands are tied.'

However, there is evidence that, on 12 November 1963, Kennedy ordered the CIA to hand over all UFO documents to the White House, and this was two weeks before he was shot.   http://www.rense.com/general/enchilada.htm

author said:

I'm betting you also wear a beard. Somehow all personnel assisting in covering up a colonizer's presence has beards. In general white coloured.

What... was that, man? What the hell was that?

l don't know, man. l was watching this object... like the satellite we saw.

And it went right across the sky.

And then.... l mean, it just suddenly....

lt just changed direction and went whizzing off. lt flashed and--

You're stoned out of your mind.



Oh, yeah. l'm stoned, man. But, like, l saw a satellite.

And it was going across the sky, and it flashed three times at me...

...and zigzagged and whizzed off. And l saw it.



That was a UFO beaming back at you.

Me and Eric Heisman was down in Mexico two weeks ago. We seen some of them flying in formation.

They've got bases all over the world now.

They've been coming here ever since scientists started bouncing radar beams off the moon.



And they've been living and working among us ever since. The government knows all about them.

What are you talking, man?

You just seen one of them, didn't you?

l saw something, but l didn't see it working here.

Well, they are people, just like us...

 

...from within our own solar system.

Except that their society is more highly evolved.

They don't have no wars. They got no monetary system.

They don't have any leaders, because each man is a leader.

Because of their technology, they're able to feed, clothe, house and transport themselves...

...equally and with no effort.



You know something? You want to know what l think?

l think this is a crackpot idea. That's what l think. How about that?

lf they're so smart, why don't they reveal themselves, and get it over with?

Why don't they reveal themselves is because if they did...

...it'd cause a general panic.

Now, we still have leaders upon whom we rely to release this information.

These leaders have decided to repress this information...

...because of the shock that it would cause to our antiquated systems.

Now, the result of this has been that the Venusians have contacted people at all walks of life...

...all walks of life....

Now Venusians are meeting with people in all walks of life, in an advisory capacity.

For once, man will have a godlike control over his own destiny.

He'll have a chance to transcend, and to evolve with some equality for all--

How's your joint, George?

author said:

Can't decide whether this thread is comic relief or needs deleting.

It's comic relief, mostly. Got an opinion about Jim Marr's fondness for little green men? Does it make the author of Crossfire seem to be some kind of kook? One could say "that's a totally different area of research. It's got no bearing on his outstanding JFK work." But, it makes it very easy for the other side to lump all "conspiracy theorists" together as a gang of lunatics. They've also done this with legitimate 9-11 research by tying it in with "no planes" theories, etc.

chuck1972 wrote:
"Jim Marrs means well and broke lots of ground on real JFK related stuff. Who among us is not a touch strange at least?"

The Motive was to kill a whole generation of Democratic Leaders! JFK, MLK & RFK.

Which would have ran from 1960-1980 atleast! But we had the good ol' boy network and right wing nuts seening the writing on the wall. We see some of the same plans used now. The difference instead of using a rifle they just have enough media in place to smear someone.

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The collateral damage of the assasinations of the 60's is often missed by those who focus on the high level theoretical damage of the political aspects.

Consider vietnam alone and the lie used as the pre-cursor for the conflict that poisoned an entire generation.

My father served there and left his soul in an asian jungle for the greed of others.

the guilt syndrome that lurked below the surface of discourse in this country is the disease that drove the destiny of a later generation you can witness being lead over the cliff like cattle

A man whose toddler son reminds him of the children he saw in the war zone and the untreated post traumatic stress mixed with the chemicals in his system culminate in suicide

and today nearly 35 years after an unknown soldier of unknown activities takes his life the records of the government he gave his soul to serve has no record

nothing unique about it either.

I get it

Beyond theory and political science

Humor kills no one

Historical deaths attributed to laughter
- In the third century B.C., the Greek stoic philosopher Chrysippus died of laughter after giving his donkey wine, then seeing it attempt to feed on figs.
- King Martin of Aragon died from a combination of indigestion and uncontrollable laughter in 1410.
Pietro Aretino, who died in 1556, "is said to have died of suffocation from laughing too much."
- In 1599, the Burmese king Nanda Bayin laughed to death when informed, by a visiting Italian merchant, that Venice was a free state without a king.
- In 1660, the Scottish aristocrat, polymath and first translator of Rabelais into English Thomas Urquhart, is said to have died laughing upon hearing that Charles II had taken the throne.

Modern deaths attributed to laughter
- On 24 March 1975, Alex Mitchell, a 50-year-old bricklayer from King's Lynn, England, died laughing while watching the "Kung Fu Kapers" episode of The Goodies, featuring a kilt-clad Scotsman battling a vicious black pudding with his bagpipes. After twenty-five minutes of continuous laughter, Mitchell finally slumped on the sofa and died from heart failure. His widow later sent The Goodies a letter thanking them for making Mitchell's final moments of life so pleasant.
- In 1989, a Danish audiologist, Ole Bentzen, died laughing while watching A Fish Called Wanda. His heart was estimated to have beaten at between 250 and 500 beats per minute, before he succumbed to cardiac arrest.
- In 2003, Damnoen Saen-um, a Thai ice cream salesman, is reported to have died while laughing in his sleep at the age of 52. His wife was unable to wake him, and he stopped breathing after two minutes of continuous laughter. He is believed to have died of either heart failure or asphyxiation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_from_laughter

I guess humor killed those folks, but I can't think of a better way to go.  ;)

Did your father die in Vietnam, or do you mean that being there left him emotionally destroyed? My best friend in junior high ("middle school") and high school came back seriously damaged, as an alcoholic, wife beating lunatic. He was one of the funniest, nicest guys you could imagine before he enlisted. He died in a car crash in '82, while driving drunk. Another friend of mine died in a helicopter crash over there, and I attended the funeral of another high school friend last year, who also became an alcoholic after serving in Vietnam, but died primarily from the effects of Agent Orange. That poor guy was sick for years, in and out of the V.A hospital all the time.

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Listen there is plenty of humor to be had on the subject

anybody remember alien autopsy????

Here's a thought C

Could Judy Baker actually have been hot enough for a wild man like oswald???

I am waiting for a shrink to come out with a book that states Oswald was a woman trapped in a mans body???

If Garrison had it right he was running with guys that were less butch than marina and judy ...

If I ever write a full length book I am gonna demand this guy above me does all my illistrations and photo selection

I have to have a sense of ironic sardonic humor ... after all I have less than 10% of the eyesight of an average person and I spend my time reading books and articles and bad photocopies and gov. files and the scribbles of investagators and self-published monographs on one particular topic

and then i work 12 hours a day listening to an ipod with about 120 black ops in it.

This guy makes me laugh

sorry

I'd be happy to be your "picture guy;" start writing!  ;D

There's nothing they can do for your eyes? Is your vision holding where it's at, at least?

You make me laugh, too. Oswald a woman trapped in a man's body? Hmm...


http://paulwilson.amuseyourself.com/2010/08/06/lee-is-leaving-bon-voyage-doll/

That's one of the weirdest websites I've ever seen.

I'll probably be posting a lot less from now on, as Zach's taking all the fun out of it. He says he'd have deleted the original post in this thread because it was "off topic." Not by much, according to the man who wrote Crossfire.

Can I get your opinion on this "horrendous" image of a two-headed banjo player, Chuck?
Click and scroll down, if you dare.
http://www.blackopforum.info/assassination-research/happy-birthday-jfk/msg2540/

I used it to make fun of myself, but bern494 reacted by calling me a dickhead and Zach thinks it's just too terrible to behold. I guess Zach must've hated Deliverance, too.

Must not be an Easy Rider fan, either... ;)
http://www.moviesounds.com/easy/howjoint.mp3

"Claiming that JFK was an alien is essentially "off topic," so in fact probably does violate our guidelines. Unfortunately, I see now that I'll have to incorporate a bunch of self-obvious stuff into our guidelines, such as that trolling and intentionally disruptive posts are not welcome.

Furthermore, for the people wishing to be taken seriously or post something serious, why would they want to post on a forum full of pictures of two-headed hillbillies, Santa Clause flipping the bird and graphic displays of mutated babies?

Zach"

...a forum full, bursting at the seams, absolutely overwhelmed with countless images of mutants and weird Santas! Billions of them, everywhere you look!

http://www.blackopforum.info/general-show-discussion/should-we-disable-images/msg2854/#msg2854

These are responses to questions both public and private

My dad

commited suicide in long branch new jersey

the obit and short articles were in local papers sept. 11-16 1976
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one headline was "death ruled a suicide"
asbury park press
note:His son Charles survives him is me
(that is for the guy who e-mailed me and called me a liar)
his military records were removed from the database
Through my own research I have discovered this is not uncommon either
Many regular servicemen were at that time co-opted by intellegence agencies for what the grunts thought was secret patriotic work after showing skills in the field to covert actions and when they needed to come home they were not properly cared for. Some agencies cut them loose or liquidated them.

Don't take my word look for yourselves

what happens when you send these guys home who were not decompressed as one veteran activist once told me?

My entire generation was poisoned by this and other actions taken by those in power during that time period and i place the start of socialogical destruction squarly in Dallas November 22 1963.



the best way to describe him and thousands more vets from  that time is tortured
The point of this is that the political leaders are one aspect of the compiled damage of the deception that was the official position and excuse to involve our country in the illegal illegitimate , and completely imoral crime that was the vietnam conflict.

other stuff.

developing sources that are as near to impossible to chalenge as I can get is what slows my writting

I should have no sight left but it hangs around abot 10 years past the latest date i should have lost it all
I stress it because it indicates my level of dedication to this subject
Defiance ... With less than 10% the strength of your eyes I will observe , read and learn 10 times what you do.
It is enlightening to note the various reactions of individuals I have run accross in my efforts to persue the truth

positive people
andy at last hurrah works with me to find easier versions of literature above and beyond what you would expect

Rodger Remmington was the first author to not pitty me and at the same time be aware of my limitations without casting aside my work or opinions as trivial.  although his appearances on lens shows were a bit rough I could listen to Dr. Remmington speak for hours

Mark Oakes (was in dealy plaza before groden btw) is another one who didn't hold it against me and is yet another genuine and kind person

Meanwhile there are others who have accepted leads for their projects and data that helped them along but look down on me despite the fact that they were stalled without my input.

with lesser physical ability , education and cash I can generally see right through the smoke and mirrors some people love to employ for profit and notarity .
I speak better than my writting betrays so I love the label once used to explain why my opinion was worthless by a so-called researcher whose name we would all recognise.

I have a few manuscripts that are unworthy in my estimation as I will only release something unique for publication. BUT I am working on it  :)

Other nice guys I have had some xperience with

Ian Griggs
James Tague
Mike Ray
and my Italian friend (name omitted until his MLK/RFK thing is released)


as far as the picture guy
Dark humor is my fav.
after seeing Sam Kinison at the ritz in nyc years ago it's all down hill
But you are my tension breaker on the internet\
Ofcourse if I need cartoons I'll throw a family guy episode in or visit wim daankbars site

Hankey is out of his mind over there btw.

the dvds will resume in 2011 after xmass with the kids and i aquire a new dvd recorder . I already scripted parts 3 and  4 but I may have to do that mac dvd first (I answered it here so ask here next time I sometimes neglect e-mail for weeks but check this forum at least 3 times a week

if i missed anything let me know
I'm tired and have the flu

computer was down a while sorry

Yes the abuse of armed service people is multi-generational

I have never gotten the complete story on the domestic side of things with my father I feel confident enough to share here but his entire service record is evaporated.

Howard stern is still funny sometimes but the greats are gone , I hear you there

Boardwalk empire???
The point on that was as someone who lives right by the actual place I know the show is about as realistic as the sopranos was.

I am not upset over either show but when the print media represents these fictional things as a realistic I say well no wonder they are obtuse enough to think the hanks / bugliousi thing is a accurate.

Beyond Treason is a modern documentry about the abused troops subject

FACTS are facts ..... cartoons are cartoons ........ I like both on my T.V. but don't tell me  family guy Bill Clinton is the real deal and his presidency be damned for smoking a joint with peter and stealing that pig

guess that's that for now

there is a deep dark history to atlantic city

yes i am aware of the setting and the proper time frame

There are books on this subject I read in highschool that these guys must've missed

plus if you know what the legends are vs. the reality of the blood and sweat that went into that monster you have a greater respect for it then what they show in that series.

anyway I can only focus on a handful of attrosity at a time , and as fed up as I was with the joke that was the state of the union (actual TSA molestation jokes ..... REALLY????????? ) and my given focus on JFK I was only pointing to the warped sensability of Boardwalk EMPIRE as a contributing factor to illustrate the general disreguard for historical reality

The Robert Drew thing was nice although I felt the primer uptick for the playtone campaign in the works

anybody else study the reactions of the obama background ???
The RFK reference was bile provoking.
How long is he gonna milk the kennedy endorsement cow anyway????

Colonizers of Earth

http://knol.google.com/k/thomas-deflo/colonizers-of-earth/ibo34n8xv1r1/30#view

The most credible motive seems to be the discovery of extraterrestrial life, as soon as Humans sailed into space. Conservative powers didn't want the public to know.

Secret memo shows president demanded UFO files 10 days before death

The undated memo contains a reference to ‘Lancer’, which was JFK's Secret Service code name.
On the first page, the director of Central Intelligence wrote: ‘As you must know, Lancer has made some inquiries regarding our activities, which we cannot allow.
‘Please submit your views no later than October. Your action to this matter is critical to the continuance of the group.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1378284/Secret-memo-shows-JFK-demanded-UFO-files-10-days-assassination.html#ixzz1Kg0dEFGg

"Can't decide whether this thread is comic relief or needs deletin."

I have to suspect that this kind of post is an intentional attempt at guilt by association. "Make 'em look nutty so no serious person will touch the subject." I've even been wondering about Fetzer lately.