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  • MinMMinM
    Posts: 444
    It seemed somehow appropriate yesterday that Alex Jones had the Lee Harvey Oswald of gotcha "journalism" (jim okeefe) on his show yesterday.

    Here was my take on the function that the Alex Jones and Glenn Becks serve for the ptb:

    ...the Lance deHaven-Smiths of the world will never be allowed to lend legitimacy to 'conspiracies' .. Instead crackpots and self-promoters like Glenn Beck and Alex Jones .. have become the face of "Conspiracy Theories" ...

    Jim DiEugenio's site has some excellent pieces on conspiracies and those of whom are enlisted to discredit them:

    “Conspiracy Theories” by
    Cass R. Sunstein and Adrian Vermeule:

    A Decidedly Negative Review
    by David Mantik

    The Anti-Conspiracy Conspiracy?

    By Jim Schutze

    A Conspiracy Primer by Joseph E. Green
  • MinMMinM
    Posts: 444
    Conspiracy Theory in America, by Lance deHaven-Smith

    Reviewed by Larry Hancock with James DiEugenio

    Anti-Conspiracy Theories

    By David W. Mantik, M.D., Ph.D.

  • MinMMinM
    Posts: 444
    More on the Alex Jones story by Seamus Coogan
    "Reaction: Point/Counterpoint, King vs. Coogan" Addendum: Who is James Bamford?
    And what was he doing with the ARRB?
    by Seamus Coogan

    Alex Jones
    on the Kennedy Murder explores
    the work of the self-styled conspiracy
    baron by Seamus Coogan.
    Be sure to check Part Two.
  • MinMMinM
    Posts: 444
    One final word on the Jones - O'Keefe interview .. So now Alex Jones is helping JOK in propagating this 'the next Bin Laden will come walking across the Mexican border' meme? In other words supporting the official story. Is that where Alex Jones is on 9/11 now?
  • It seems to have gotten to the point where Jones will say whatever he thinks his viewers want to hear. At this point I wouldn't take the guy as an accurate source for tomorrow's weather, Which may be the whole point of his show: make the general population perceive whatever he says, no matter how based in fact it is, as automatically absurd.
  • heinrichheinrich
    Posts: 208
    It's difficult, I find, to listen to him or any of his media offshoots for more than 15 minutes. You get all this crypto-conservative messaging in and around all the snakeoil product sales. Accuracy and attention to detail are definitely not high on his list of priorities.
  • I got a kick out of Alex Jones "debating" on his show Bill Ayers, former Weather Undergrounder.    It's a hoot to watch Jones be confounded by how much Ayers and he agree on a number of issues when he was so certain they were mortal enemies.   It's an interesting show.
  • heinrichheinrich
    Posts: 208
    I'll have to look for that one.
  • heinrichheinrich
    Posts: 208
    Just saw it. Trainwreck interview like a lot of Alex Jones, but this one was entertaining. I agree with you - they agreed on far more than they disagreed on. It'd have been nice if Alex Jones had handled that fact a little more gracefully - but you don't expect that sort of thing anymore, especially from somebody like Alex Jones.
  • Jones has an almost cartoon vision of what a communist is.   He tried and tried to get ayers to fit the description but no intelligent leftist walking today would fall into alex jones' parameters of what a communist is.   

    I felt Ayers really lost an opportunity to provide clarity and enlighten when a caller asked him to describe the difference between a socialist and a communist.  Ayers failed to enlighten.   He explained what the Communist Manifesto was not about while  not explaining what the theory or system IS about.  Then he made reference to the scandanavian countries as examples of socialism without any explanation why they are examples, and still not differentiating between the two.   Admittedly, it was towards the end of the show with limited time but Ayers really copped out and missed a chance to educate even Jones.  
  • heinrichheinrich
    Posts: 208
    I had a similar reaction on the communism-definition bit, though Ayers was probably too battered and fatigued by all the crazy. I'm not even sure I would even attempt such a definition. It's too early after the failures of the Soviet Union, China, Cuba, and so on to come up with a new distinct vision.
  • thank you.  your points are well taken.